Re: RE : experience-experiment.

As far as I know and could check <experience> 
must be translated everywhere in the Birth with 
<experience>; <experiment> is a false translation


best wishes
yours

machiel karskens


At 20:22 3-1-2008, you wrote:
> Hi François Having re-read all the paragraphs 
> in which the word â??experimentâ?? appears, I 
> have selected the following sentences in which 
> the term â??experimentâ?? should possibly have 
> been translated as â??experience.â?? From the 
> â??Preface:â?? â??The breadth of the experiment 
> [experience] seems to be identified with the 
> domain of the careful gaze?â?? (BC: xiii). From 
> â??The Lessons off the Hospital:â?? â??Once one 
> defined a practical experiment [experience] 
> carried out on the patient himself, one insisted 
> on the need to relate particular knowledge to an 
> encyclopaedic wholeâ?? (BC: 71). â??The doctrine 
> of the hospital was an ambiguous one: 
> theoretically free, and, because of the 
> non-contractual character of the relation 
> between doctor and patient, open to the 
> indifference of experiment [experience]?(BC: 
> 83-4). From â??Seeing andd Knowing:â?? â??The 
> opposition between clinic and experiment 
> [experience] overlays exactly the difference 
> between the language we hear, and consequently 
> recognise, and the question we pose, or, rather, 
> impose: â??The observerâ?¦reads nature, he who 
> experiments [experiences] questionsâ??â?? (BC: 
> 108). And from â??Open Up a Few Corpses:â?? 
> â???progress in observation, a wish to develop 
> and exttend experiment [experience]?â?? (BC: 
> 136). Many thankss for your help with this, 
> Kevin. > -----Original Message----- > From: 
> francois.gagnon.1@xxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Thu, 3 
> Jan 2008 12:14:04 -0500 > To: 
> foucault-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [Foucault-L] 
> RE :  experience-experiment. > > I can help if 
> you give me the sentences. In this one, I agree 
> with you > that it should read experience... > 
> Best, > François > > 
> ________________________________ > > De: 
> foucault-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxx de la part de 
> Kevin Turner > Date: jeu. 2008-01-03 08:41 > Ã?: 
> Foucault List > Objet : [Foucault-L] 
> experience-experiment. > > > > It has been noted 
> by a number of people that the term experience 
> was > mistraslated as experiment in the 
> Archaeology of Knowledge. > > I was wondering 
> whether this is also the case in the Birth of 
> the Clinic. > > The term "experiment" appears on 
> pages: xiii, xv, 38, 48, 69, 71, 84, > 108, 
> 136. > If, for example, one reads the passage on 
> page 38, it seems that > experiment should be 
> experience: 'In fact, an entierly free field 
> of > medical experiment [experience] had to be 
> constituted...' > > Can any one help in sorting 
> out the good trasnlations from the bad? > > 
> Regards, > Kevin > > > > 
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Prof. Machiel Karskens
social and political philosophy
Faculty of Philosophy
Radboud University Nijmegen - The Netherlands